Twitter now Fact checking Trumps Lying tweets

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Dundee

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I watched on the news this morning that twitter has now added a fact check link to the bottom of incorrect or lying tweets.
This included POTUS. In the example they used, Trump made allegations about postal votes being rigged and biased and directed the allegation at one place in particular.

Twitter added a fact check link at the bottom of his tweet, linking to a site that shows the real truth which in this case has no relation to Trumps tweet and shows him to be lying yet again.
Go Twitter :)
Now we will watch Trumps reaction to this.
I can't wait
 

LETA

4☆babbler
Staff
Ooh, i have not seen it yet. They're already doing that on YouTube, where they slap any channel talking about Covid or UFOs with a link to authoritative sources in an effort to undermine wut they consider to be false information.
 
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Dundee

Guest
Ooh, i have not seen it yet. They're already doing that on YouTube, where they slap any channel talking about Covid or UFOs with a link to authoritative sources in an effort to undermine wut they consider to be false information.
In principle it is a good thing, when used against Trump it is a great thing.
But there needs to be room for speculation and conspiracy theory too.
Otherwise it is censorship.
Although in the case of Twitter they are not taking posts down, just offering clarification.
 

LETA

4☆babbler
Staff
In principle it is a good thing, when used against Trump it is a great thing.
But there needs to be room for speculation and conspiracy theory too.
Otherwise it is censorship.
Although in the case of Twitter they are not taking posts down, just offering clarification.
That's how censorship and the Nanny state usually start. First, they weed out the outright crazies, and then they come for the rest of us, like that poem by Niemoller:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
 
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Dundee

Guest
That's how censorship and the Nanny state usually start. First, they weed out the outright crazies, and then they come for the rest of us, like that poem by Niemoller:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Too True,
You talk of a Nanny State,
You should live here in Australia.
It is a great place, but hell we are controlled, so may nanny laws.
It is awful.
And it is all caused by the vocal minority (stinking do gooders) and ignored by the complacent majority.
You have no idea how tight our laws and controls are here.
It is really shitty.
 

LETA

4☆babbler
Staff
Too True,
You talk of a Nanny State,
You should live here in Australia.
It is a great place, but hell we are controlled, so may nanny laws.
It is awful.
And it is all caused by the vocal minority (stinking do gooders) and ignored by the complacent majority.
You have no idea how tight our laws and controls are here.
It is really shitty.
Did you surrender your guns?
 
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Dundee

Guest
Did you surrender your guns?
No, I had no auto or semi auto guns. Mine are all legal, locked in a gun cabinet, inside a wardrobe behind a desk. :)
But it is not only about guns. Here we cant ride motorbikes out the bush unless they are registered, same for quads, go carts etc. we have a million places you cant camp, ride a horce, light a campfire, drive off road, ride a dirt bike. or even walk a dog. It goes on and on. It really is shit here in OZ in that respect.
 
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Alien Origins

Guest
Ooh, i have not seen it yet. They're already doing that on YouTube, where they slap any channel talking about Covid or UFOs with a link to authoritative sources in an effort to undermine wut they consider to be false information.

I can see it with UFOs as 99.9% of that crap is just that crap! But the UFO community can blame themselves for that! And if you're not a medical expert you should stay out of COVID19 discussions especially if your one of those espousing shit you don't know what you're talking about...(Conspiracy Theorists)..There is a lot of misinformation going around about COVID19 and thats dangerous especially with all the gullible people out there that believe anything they read.
 
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Dundee

Guest
I can see it with UFOs as 99.9% of that crap is just that crap! But the UFO community can blame themselves for that! And if you're not a medical expert you should stay out of COVID19 discussions especially if your one of those espousing shit you don't know what you're talking about...(Conspiracy Theorists)..There is a lot of misinformation going around about COVID19 and thats dangerous especially with all the gullible people out there that believe anything they read.
I agree completely on important stuff like poltics, law medicine. But there should be a caveat that allows speculation and discussion, even conspiracy theory. Fact checking is essential in important stuff, but we dont want it to extend to cencorship.
 

LETA

4☆babbler
Staff
I can see it with UFOs as 99.9% of that crap is just that crap! But the UFO community can blame themselves for that! And if you're not a medical expert you should stay out of COVID19 discussions especially if your one of those espousing shit you don't know what you're talking about...(Conspiracy Theorists)..There is a lot of misinformation going around about COVID19 and thats dangerous especially with all the gullible people out there that believe anything they read.
I agree with Dundee's agreement. Unfortunately, censorship is a slippery slope, and social media, like every other business, is run by ppl with political affiliations and interests that may seek to use their position to silence ALL POWs that do not align with their narrative. They could eventually muscle hosting companies into not providing a platform for sites like ours that like to babble about ufo stuff :(
 
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Alien Origins

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Sites like this one and others like it are more than likely not in ay danger of being censored.....In essence you're not promoting a political agenda.....UFO sites only agenda really is to push government to acknowledge UFOs and reveal their secrets which really puts the government in no real bad situation since they control all the knowledge (unknown) to the public that is.
 
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Alien Origins

Guest
I agree with Dundee's agreement. Unfortunately, censorship is a slippery slope, and social media, like every other business, is run by ppl with political affiliations and interests that may seek to use their position to silence ALL POWs that do not align with their narrative. They could eventually muscle hosting companies into not providing a platform for sites like ours that like to babble about ufo stuff :(

They could eventually muscle hosting companies into not providing a platform for sites like ours that like to babble about ufo stuff :(

Hosting companies are just providing the platform not promoting it. Social Media is dangerous in and of itself as it gives every nut case with an internet connection and a computer a chance to spread their half baked ideas political or otherwise. The internet has made getting their messages out easier and reach a lot more people..If anything social media sites should be shut down that would solve some of the problem, not all of it.
 

LETA

4☆babbler
Staff
Hosting companies are just providing the platform not promoting it. Social Media is dangerous in and of itself as it gives every nut case with an internet connection and a computer a chance to spread their half baked ideas political or otherwise. The internet has made getting their messages out easier and reach a lot more people..If anything social media sites should be shut down that would solve some of the problem, not all of it.
Oddly enough, Google is placing social media content at the top of their search while burying forum content. It is in the best interest of the powers that be to centralize information just like it is happening with commerce so they can control the masses more easily.
 
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Alien Origins

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Social Media is the most dangerous form of communication there is on the internet....All it is, is one big soap opera! People airing their dirty laundry for the entire world to see.....I will use Twitter and have in the past but Facebook no way....Google places Social Media ahead of forums simply because they enjoy the drama and its easier to track people on social media...You can bet Google is not placing them that high without a motive....Social Media needs to be banned from the internet entirely.
 
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Dundee

Guest
Social Media is the most dangerous form of communication there is on the internet....All it is, is one big soap opera! People airing their dirty laundry for the entire world to see.....I will use Twitter and have in the past but Facebook no way....Google places Social Media ahead of forums simply because they enjoy the drama and its easier to track people on social media...You can bet Google is not placing them that high without a motive....Social Media needs to be banned from the internet entirely.

I agree with you in the assesment of Social Media0 There is not much good about it. I have an anonymous facebook account with no friends and no posts and no personal info. Two of my sons use facebook and I have not even added them as friends. My other two sons hate it as much as I do. I use my account only for the buy swap and sell groups thats all.

The flip side is that I am a big advocate of Internet freedom, and do not support any form of internet cencorship.
There needs to be checks and balances inplace of course, you have to properly protect kids, and peoples privacy and safety. And you need checks and balanced in place to keep idiots like Trump from lying.

But as for the rest, if someone is stupid nough to think the world is flat, or that the moon landing was fake well good on them. Gives folks like us people to laugh at.

If the normal net gets too contolled, there is alwasy TOR ;)